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you think right now in the current in the current lineup? charles: yeah. i mean, i think they really do have a problem here because you ved had new green deal democrats, and there are a lot of ways that those interests are pitted against each other. maybe joe biden would be able to appeal to them. i think that s kind of the best bet candidate for recapturing some of those voters, the blue collar guys that were lifelong democrats but went to trump. but, yeah, i do think we re seeing the demographics of both parties fundamentally changing, and candidates are still the feeling out how to gram with. that. charles: speaking of demographics, in that party there s a youth movement. it s an ideological movement and an actual movement, and there s a lot of talk about not having the same old people run or control things. nancy pelosi already has her hands full just trying to control those folks who have been elected, and it seems like that might be playing a role with respect to biden wait

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