there s a bit of a nuance there. he was talking only about cooperating with the investigation not the biden matter. but biden was mentioned on the call and on the transcript. so i mean, look, they re related. and also the other point is there s no indication that the justice department is investigating what happened to the server. the fbi knows exactly what happened in terms of the russian hack. they ve confirmed it multiple times, the cia, it intelligence community confirmed it. this whole idea this is needed as part of a justice department conversation just doesn t hold. we re hogging the conversation. susan, you say this is moment of truth for republicans. explain why you see it that way. i think it is. i think the way to understand what happened today was that this was a full-on confession and mick mulvaney accidently told the truth. and so really this is a moment for republicans to decide whether or not this is tolerable
and the beginning of what came to be the muller investigation. he s saying go back, we think you ve got server, giuliani will talk to you about it. and then he s very specific about the biden matter. he just asks directly for help, work with giuliani, work with our attorney general, we need this, it s really bad, it s really bad. the white house doesn t seem to get that a fair minded reading, i will find out, but i would say a fair minded reading of this transcript that they released leads people to say there s something wrong here. it doesn t square with what a president should do. and if they start from the position that, you know, there s nothing to see here, it s a perfect, the president s phrase, it s perfect. let s read it again. i would like you to do us a favor, though in the context of
it s gone from he was acting under orders, to he was following orders as the state department the he s painted himself as the true whistle-blower and hero. that s about style. no matter what he calls himself, the actions are hard to discern, especially because the administration refuses to answer whether he ever registered as a foreign agent. maybe he needed to, maybe he didn t. but under federal law you are supposed to if you re a u.s. citizen engaged in negotiations with a foreign government. that brings us to the ruts esulf his work. i m not going to give you proof. what can you do? you can t indict anybody. believe me, the proof is in the right hands money. the right hands. can you imagine if this president with his attorney general opened up an investigation into joe biden on the basis of what they re talking about right now? now on that you got to keep in mind the president s own words
who know the facts and a dozen white house officials who listened in on the call. the acting dni s testimony gave us even more names. so as you push in closer to the president, you see some big names personally in this. volker s right there with some of the most powerful men in the government, which is why his resignation and possible testimony certainly matter. at the heart of this, we get to two people, the president and a man who hasn t held elected office in over 18 years. it was last week right here that rudy giuliani tried to create so much smoke, he may have choked on it. did you ask the ukraine to investigate joe biden? no. actually, i didn t. you never asked anything about hunter biden, you never asked anything about joe biden? the only thing i asked about joe biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that lutsenko
political gain above the criteria of the country, that indicates an impeachable offense to me. nobody wants to go through this but we are pushed to the point where to preserve the constitution and our democratic elections, we need to do this and we need to inquire and figure out what happened. and i think that we have to have certain standard and norms. i don t think that it s a crazy thing to look into this as a very different matter. i think only this and only something that challenges my oath to protect and defend the constitution would have brought me to this place. so you believe it is a legitimate question as to whether or not this president jeopardized the national security of the united states in doing what he did with ukraine? i think that is what is on the table and we need to figure that out, yes. what does it mean to you that volker stepped down, the special envoy to ukraine, he was working