along with analysts chuck rosenberg and lisa rubin. what can we expect based on arguments put forward in advance by both sides? reporter: to set the scene, because donald trump is here in person the security has really been ramped up. there s a much greater police presence. in terms of in the courtroom, this is a long shot for donald trump, this idea that a former president can t be prosecuted for any acts whited while serving in offense, it s belied by the fact that gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. this three-judge panel is an all-female panel with two judges appointed by president biden and one appointed by former president george h.w. bush. in addition to arguing immunity, trump lawyers are also making the argument that this produce is improper under double jeopardy. ken, i need to interrupt you because the hearing is starting. let s listen in right now. our jurisdiction was challenged by an amicus. you are not questioning our collateral order jurisdiction? [indis
acts, or are we looking for a standard on a motion to dismiss to take those as true. [indiscernible] no such thing as criminal immunity for a former president. we have strong arguments on both of those things. the notion criminal immunity for a president doesn t exist. it would allow the indictment of president biden in western texas after he leaves office for mismanaging the border and let a texas judge sit in judgment over the validity when there were pardons or people were not prosecuted, not everybody goes through an impeachment proceeding before they get prosecuted. only for subordinate officers. the founders, the framers