no. we could do this all morning, and we will. wow. i want to go back to the pennsylvania poll. sam and katty, i want us to talk about this part of it. because everybody is focusing on younger voters who, right now, are not moving towards him as much as they thought. they re going to come home. they just will. you look at this number, though. voters 65 and older, joe biden, 60%. donald trump. sam, nobody expected this, but we have seen this. older voters have been moving toward joe biden steadily for quite some time. and, of course, as we know, older voters, they vote. yeah, i was picking up on this a couple weeks ago. the new york times did a survey about who was actually concerned about trump s legal troubles and if they thought they were serious. you saw the same age breakdown. 65 and older way more concerned about it than the younger
over an leelection that trump still baselessly claims was stolen from him. here is biden in pennsylvania yesterday. three years ago tomorrow we saw with our own eyes the violent mob storm the united states capitol. you were almost in disbelief as you turned on the television. for the first time in our history, insurrectionists had come to stop the peaceful transfer of power in america, first time. smashing windows, shattering doors, attacking the police, outside gallows were erected as the maga crowd chanted hang mike pence and inside they hunted for speaker pelosi. the house was chanting as they marched through and smashed windows where s nancy . i think it was important to detail those events and what exactly happened that day for those who may have forgotten the
reelected, he can t pardon himself either. some people say a president can pardon himself, he can t do that for the same reason. the constitution says that president, that whoever, that presidents can be punished according to law. they can be indicted. they can be prosecuted. they can be convicted. well that would be meaningless if a president could pardon himself. so that is nonsense. trump doesn t have the power to pardon himself, and other presidential candidates should be very careful about talking about the pardon, because they can go down just the way gerald ford did. liz, as always, thank you for joining us this morning. thank you for important work that you did 50 years ago. you re the second person this morning i ve been able to thank for important work that goes back decades. the woman who fought for juneteenth, and now you. thank you so much. you are formal democratic congress woman from new york. i want to show you pictures, you can see them in the bottom right corner. th