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are quite scripted. these guys are tightly drilled. what do you reckon from watching is the advice from advisers? i from watching is the advice from advisers? ~ ., , advisers? i think the absolute advice to rishi advisers? i think the absolute advice to rishi sunak- advisers? i think the absolute advice to rishi sunak was - advisers? i think the absolute advice to rishi sunak was go l advisers? i think the absolute i advice to rishi sunak was go out swinging advice to rishi sunak was go out swinging i advice to rishi sunak was go out swinging. i think advice to rishi sunak was go out swinging. i think he advice to rishi sunak was go out swinging. i think he absolutely l advice to rishi sunak was go out. swinging. i think he absolutely did. exactly swinging. i think he absolutely did. exactly as swinging. i think he absolutely did. exactly as chris swinging. i think he absolutely did. exactly as chris said, swinging. i think he absolutely did. exactly as chris said, we s

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tested in the country, particularly those who are most vulnerable like those who are most vulnerable like those going into social care. but we were only doing a few thousand tests a day and that was the practical problem. we were trying, like every other country in the world, like every other health system, we were desperately trying to scale our testing to meet this huge need for extra tests and what we had to try to do in the meantime was to prioritise who got tested first. 50. prioritise who got tested first. so, a decision was taken that day and it was changed after a meeting. what these was changed after a meeting. what these messages reveal is that the chief these messages reveal is that the chief medical officer says all people chief medical officer says all people going into care should be tested people going into care should be tested. matt hancock appears to agree tested. matt hancock appears to agree with that, but later in the day after agree with that, but later

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daily telegraph is trying to accuse him of, of ignoring scientific advice, i don t think he can stand convicted. i think the problem was and it is revealed in these leaked whatsapp messages is that there weren t enough tests. so he was not saying, don t test people who could have been testing. theyjust simply were not enough tests, so he prioritised testing people who were discharged from hospitals into care homes. we discharged from hospitals into care homes. ~ ., ., ., homes. we don t have all the messages. homes. we don t have all the messages, though, homes. we don t have all the messages, though, do - homes. we don t have all the messages, though, do we? l homes. we don t have all the i messages, though, do we? we homes. we don t have all the - messages, though, do we? we don t have the full picture. we messages, though, do we? we don t have the full picture. have the full picture. we know re have the full picture. we know pretty much have the full picture. we know pretty

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going to publish more of them over the next few days. so i suspect we ll be talking more about matt hancock s communications with ministers and aides. i find hancock s communications with ministers and aides. ifind it hancock s communications with ministers and aides. i find it quite remarkable he shared these messages with isabel oakeshott, the journalist who is a well known covid lockdown sceptic and has been pretty critical of the government. these are pretty sensitive messages with government officials and ministers, some of them involve the prime minister at the time, borisjohnson. there will be some questions over that, i m sure. the argument you are going to hearfrom mr hancock and from his allies and i suspect from the government as well is that all of this should be visited, looked at ljy of this should be visited, looked at by the covid inquiry which is getting under way in england at the moment. my understanding is these messages have been handed over by mr hancock to the in

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diametrically opposite view to him on the lockdowns. she and the telegraph generally very anti lockdown. in an enormous ideological sense. it does seem strange that matt hancock thought this would be a goodidea matt hancock thought this would be a good idea to cooperate with a journalist who disagreed with them so fundamentally. maybe he thought that by working with a hostile genus, if he could persuade her to a large extent, he seems to have done in his book, that would strengthen his argument that he behaved appropriately and did the betty code in difficult circumstances. we appropriately and did the betty code in difficult circumstances. in difficult circumstances. we will see messages in difficult circumstances. we will see messages published - in difficult circumstances. we will see messages published in - in difficult circumstances. we will see messages published in more| see messages published in more circumstances. thank you. the family of woman who was killed by her estra

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