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Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:49:00

former ambassador bill taylor, i would ask it to you. do you see this as a possible off ramp for ukraine? it could be an off ramp, actually. for me, it kind of being an off ramp, mainly because there are a number of scapegoats. whether it s shoigu, gerasimov, prigozhin, clearly, putin could come up with any story on a dime. turned from gaming prigozhin, to offering us a sweetheart deal. it doesn t really take that much of a pretext for putin to latch on and pivot away, and live to fight another day. this could be the moment, or this could drag out for weeks while ukraine s liberate additional territory, and russia suffers enormous human losses. and putin comes up with any number of different scenarios to justify wasn t it wasn t him that loss of, or somebody else s fault. lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, safe travels, thank

Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:11:00

he s not going to want to emerge from this, as looking weak. submissive. as someone who, again, gave into prigozhin. because that could only encourage others to do the same thing. director brennan, if you are advising the president right now from an intelligence perspective, what would you be telling him watching this all play out in the geopolitical implications of it all? well, i think i say it s still very unsettled. we ll be trying to get a handle on exactly what is happening inside the kremlin, throughout the country. what the impact is on the broader russian military. with the impact as far as the war fighting in ukraine. what we should be doing in support of ukraine. maybe taking advantage of the opportunity now. also, keeping a very close eye on the strategic assets of russia, its nuclear inventory, missiles and other types of things. again, i think this is still very, very unsettled. what happens in the coming days and weeks, again, will determine the course. whether or no

Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:17:00

control? that s something that we always have to be wary of, even with just a war in ukraine in the potential threats. so, the threat that putin is voicing, about using the worst possible weapons. now, we don t know what putin might do. i don t think we d ever use nuclear weapons against his own people, with prigozhin on russian territory, but he will, i will think, stop at anything down the road to try to consolidate his power. reconsolidate his power. andrea, how shocked were you to hear that this deal was even struck. by, a, lukashenko, b, struck within 24 hours of prigozhin s advance on moscow. considering the rhetoric that has already been put out there, considering how vulnerable he is now made himself. and understanding, we don t even know those terms yet. we don t know if, in fact, lukashenko, through putin, has agreed to the stepping down of

Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:36:00

joining us on this. give me first the big picture view. you ve been watching this thing, very closely, play out. now, these latest developments that we are hearing. of the wagner group standing down. what do you make a little? yasmin, this is a demonstration of chaos in the kremlin. this is a demonstration that president putin is really in charge. he s got big problems across his various ministries, across his various supporters. that s the main message. that president putin has trouble at home. and that s the other big picture. that s good news for ukraine. ukraine has been readying its forces, probing, trying to find the weak links in the line up and down the russian line. where the russians have been trying to defend against this big counteroffensive. they ve had to pull troops out in order to probably counter

Transcripts for MSNBC Yasmin Vossoughian Reports 20240604 19:27:00

parts of the russian line right now. it seems to be, from this message he seems to be saying his forces are returning to the fight here in ukraine. we ll have to very closely watch, and see if they leave. that southern city of rostov. right before they come back here. yeah? rough centers for, us thank you. coming up next, everybody, the treat of this rating not a question about the loyalties of other russian security forces may lie. so, could we see other groups follow? could this be an opening for them? i m gonna ask former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, bill taylor, next about that. much, much more. we ll be right back. l be right back. it s not too late for another treatment option. to learn more visit treatted.com that s treatt-e-d.com.

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