he wrote beyond the messy truth, and dana, let s talk about what the president is still considering here because he s still thinking about declaring a national emergency. politically speaking, how does this affect both sides? is this beneficial to both sides? potentially politically and let s just underscore that because you say it and i want to say it, politically. the people who are not going to get paychecks tomorrow, of course not. the mri yada, yada, yada of other reasons why this shutdown is bad for regular people, but politically what would it do. it would allow the president to say i didn t give in, i stood up and i did whatever i could for the wall, the democrats wouldn t come to the table, they wouldn t negotiate on the wall, i used my executive power. whether it works when it makes its way through the courts or not, he can save face by saying, i did what i could. same with the democrats. they can stand up and say, we didn t give in to the president
time again. so i can agree with general kelly, it s just not it s not a pleasant thing, and it wouldn t matter who called you because it s just reinforcing the tragedy that s at hand. paul monti, it s always an honor to talk to you, it s an honor to have you as a friend. jared is an inspiration to all of us. thank you so much for being with us today. and people thank you, jake. people at home, the song i drive your truck famous country western song is based on paul driving the truck of his beloved fallen son jared. thanks so much, paul, good to see you. thank you, jake. okay. my political panel is here with me to discuss. we have with me senior writer for the federalist mary katherine hamm, david irvin, and van jones, beyond the messy truth author.
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