deregulation, our criticisms are you see the fingerprints of both parties there. there s no doubt about that. you see an awful lot of democrats who bought into the free trade ideas, and by buying into it, i mean, without the kinds of restrictions, without some oversight to make sure that it was played properly. .. the way that we think that things have been in the past, that is what we are talking about. not in the other believe. host: donald barlett and james steele of the author of this fabulous new beau, the betrayal of the american dream. both journalists, extraordinary man, you re both in their 70s now? almost. together, at the scene for over 40 years at the very top of american journalism and absolutely held up as a paradigm of american investigative journalism. this is truly a book that you can t stop reading. i read it, and i had great, great interest. the betrayal of the american dream. thank you so much. that was after words , booktv s signature progr