here we are thursday and we ve just seen another new issue reinjected into this campaign, afghanistan. and so, you just never know what s going to change the landscape on any given day and we re too inclined to think when you have a debate like tuesday night, somehow it is the most important thing that ever happened or ever will happen and it set the table for the rest of the campaign and that s not true. jon: one of the issues that really didn t get mentioned that much during the debate the benghazi tragedy. there is a new fox poll out in which 60% of americans say hillary clinton has been dishonest with americans on benghazi. you know what happened that night, her knowledge of it, her reaction to it and all of that. if you have got 60% thinking a candidate is dishonest on an issue, you can have great debates all you want but you still could have a tough road trying to occupy the oval
forces when they are in a pinch in tough tactical fights. i think we should continue to do that. the president doesn t like to talk about that, butst actually something we re doing, and i think we re doing. 5,500 may be too few, i take them seriously. we should have that debate, but the good news is if you preserve this infrastructure, you ve got flexibility and so will the next president. i think that range of up to 10,000 troops is actually a very formidable and appropriate capability going forward. jenna: tony, why do you think this makes us safer today? two reasons. first, we recognized before 9/11 that the al-qaeda folks were able to use the taliban in afghanistan as a base for operations. there s no reason to believe that won t happen again. al-qaeda has moved back into pakistan based on discussions with intelligence experts. with that said though, we have to recognize we can t be everywhere and do everything for the afghans.
debate the foreign policy ramifications of all of this, there s a lot of families that are listening to what the president has to say today and wondering what does this really mean for us? what does it mean for us not only as a country, but also as a family. we can t forget that. jon: it does bring that hope. jenna: it does. jon: coming up, we ll be talking with another one of our fox news military analysts, major general bob scales now retired from the army what he heard in the president s remarks. also some politics. there will be, this war will be left to the president s successor, so let s talk about some possibilities here. hillary clinton and her strong debate performance, how that might have hurt president i m sorry, vice president joe biden s chances of winning the nomination if he should decide to run for president. and from insiders to outsiders, donald trump and ben carson way out in front of the gop field in a new fox poll. what it means for all of those other candi
aftershocks as well. josh earnest responded to comments that the clinton camp may be pressuring the vice president to speed up his decision. they run their own campaign. they can apply pressure or take it away wherever they feel warranted. i m confident the vice president will do what he set out to do, make a intensely personal consideration based on his own considerations. jon: joining us, larry sabato, director of politics at the university of virginia. so, larry, if the vice president was looking for a reason to jump into this race, and a lot of people said he would evaluate hillary clinton s performance in the debate the other night, did he find that reason to jump in in this debate? no, he didn t find any reason. i think the democrats generally were pleased with how hillary clinton performed. for that matter bernie sanders supporters were pleased with his performance. of course it was one night, jon. that was tuesday.
office. yes and october 22nd is a date that ought to be circled twice in everybody s political calendar. it may be more critical to hillary clinton s chances and maybe joe biden s decision to run or not run than that debate was. october 22nd, when hillary clinton appears before the benghazi committee. jon: that is exactly right. she will be testifying in public, seems to be eager to do so according to her, statements the other night during that debate. what about bernie sanders? he went in as the challenger? how did he do in forcing his position? i don t subscribe to the conventional wisdom which said somehow sanders blew it by being eased toward hillary clinton. his supporters. people say, well, he didn t broaden his appeal. i don t know that you necessarily use a debate to broaden your appeal. just in general, jon, we criticize candidates constantly