civics as kids in the gerrymandering where it starts a little sliver in one part of a big city and goes all the way up to the suburbs. out to rural areas completely disconnected with communities of interest. they had that s how democrats historically would when it is radically redrawn maps. and that could potentially put one or two or three seats in play. and had a close race in 2024, effectively determine who the speaker is. bill: here at the democratic chair from wisconsin he s name is ben winkler believing here he is on sunday watch this. this is going to define the future of democracy and abortion access and politics in wisconsin which as you know is the tipping point space based in the high country. this could not be more significant of a fight. bill: new york times just a few days ago, the election could be the beginning of the end of scott walker s wisconsin legacy. so they give you a lot of props of breaking up the republican party in that state. we will drop boxes as o
on protecting those rights. ever s ran on protecting those rights. it s much more important. what s interesting with republicans is that because the party is split on how you deal with the post-roe world, they are still struggling as candidates to figure out how to talk about abortion rights. because what we re seeing in polling, we often talk about it being a split country when it comes to abortion. that s not the case. most americans see abortion rights as important and something we should have in this country. democrats are are continuing to run on this issue. they re seeing success over and over again. republicans are still trying to figure out how they had these conversations. ben, if you are a viewer and you are watching this in any state other than wisconsin, why do you care about this race? i was asking ben. eugene, i d like to hear your thoughts to. ben, if you start. so, where we are on the
2024. right-wing candidate dan kelly was part of wisconsin s fake electors plot. he will face off against a left leaning judge janet per se what s per se when it s as wisconsin voters know what s on the line. everywhere we go the turnout that we get from people around the state wanting to talk about this election, wanting to share how concerned they are about the state of wisconsin going forward, how important this racist to them. i have people coming up to me in tears saying we are praying that you win this race. we are praying that we get control of the supreme court back. it s not just wisconsin we have our eye on. in virginia, democrats are sending these states first black woman to congress. jennifer mcclelland swept a special election for the u.s. house nearly 75% of the vote. joining me to discuss both of these key races, ben winkler, chair of the wisconsin democratic party. political reporter nathan mcdermott, and i must nbc
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