my beloved friend martin luther king had a dream and jackie robinson has a debt. i have a debt to young people. you have to look at the full context of the man s life and jackie robinson as a civil rights icon was someone who, yes, sometimes was angry about a lack of progress in america but at other times as i show in my book 42 faith felt like a lot of progress had been made in this country and we shouldn t forget that so maybe at a time of great division people reach out to leaders like jackie robinson and think about the future. dana: thank you so much for that update. joining us now to update the issue in los angeles is ben shapyro, editor in chief of daily wire.com. gentlemen, let s listen to this sound bite from hillary clinton before we get started. she spoke about this controversy a couple of minutes ago. he attacks black athletes as
there is only four. so there you have it. right? dana: i m going to give ben the last word if that s all right. ben, how do we all move past this? if you had your prescription pad and you could write a prescription for america for moving past this, how you do we do it? you have talked about how the culture wars are driving us apart and i did think of you this weekend, i knew that you were observing the jewish holiday and i thought my gosh, when he gets back online he s going to see this cascade of more culture wars. yeah, it never ends and i think the only way to get past this is to go back at this time consensus we had before, to suggest trump started this culture war is not true. kaepernick started this particular thing. this was a controversy a year ago. the police didn t start it by killing we need to go back to where public opinion is, which is it s inappropriate to protest the national anthem or during the national anthem. protest all you want in other venues and at the
jesse owens did it. martin luther king did it. when they did it, it was unpopular. protesting a lot of times is unpopular but our first amendment right alous us to be unpopular so dana: here is something i wonder about, ben. the original protest from kaepernick had basically, in my opinion, i don t watch a ton of sports had been dying out, we weren t hearing about it, he wasn t picked up by a team and the president made it an explosive thing and the left tends to overreact to president trump and then what you get at the end is basically people saying, yeah, i think you should stand for the national anthem and we should probably try to continue to do more to calm racial tensions in the country but the national anthem doesn t seem to be the place to do that. yeah. there is a series of overreactions that happened here. first of all just to talk about the underlying issue with regard to police brutality being systemic across the country, out here in california there is a
anthem. this is not a left or right issue, wadonald trump said this weekend is he race baited. he called colin kaepernick sing mother an s.o.b. and engaging in this type of destructive, racial baiting in front of a group in alabama which is his base he framed an argument that set up a situation where he would upset a group of americans african-americans, right? that got us to this place where people white people and black people said not left or right, white african-american white and african-americans said this is wrong, this is why 200 members of the nfl said there is something wrong and we re going to protest this and i think that s part of the problem with this president, right this is what this is the problem we re having, he continues to put his foot in his mouth over and over again and then there are folks like ben who says it s the left. it s not the left. it s commonsense americans saying this president is wrong and then he goes out and says well, look, the race