blasey ford, or no, what s your sense? i think you have the lindsey grahams who has been super fiery on this issue. he has denounced this entire process since dr. ford came out. but then all the way down you have the ben sasses, this makes him very uncomfortable. you have the bob corkerers who are the same. but then you have the tom cottons who are also big defenders of the president who don t think this investigation should be happening, and then on the other end of the spectrum, jeff flake. so i think with any particular singular issue it demands on the individual senator, what they have also in their political landscape and how they react to the president. thank you all for this conversation. i m going to ask anne and nancy to stick around because there s another major headline we ve got to talk about. the new york times landing like a grenade at the white house this morning. blowing up the president s lifelong claims he s a self-made
waiting in the wings, eye long with a bunch of other republicans too, i might add, in case something happens, impeachment or something like that. open question to the panel here. can anybody think of any republican out there who is likely or just plauzabsibly goi to challenge donald trump in 2020? is there name we can put out there s there? i said kasich could barely win at home. kasich seems to be the only one make those moves and without fear. as you pointed out, he didn t win. you have republicans, pence s, tom cotton. remember tom cotton was during iowa during the campaign. no one thought trump would win. knows guys have been very loyal to donald trump. then the ben sasses of the world who never wanted to he is port him any way. to your point earlier is that there is also a disconnect between republicans in washington and elsewhere and the state parties. talk to state party chairs thp they are are happy with trump. you heard the republican party
chair in iowa. yelling at ben sass for criticizing the president. i think there will be more of that. there is a gop that has been quietly raging. not too quiet. it is. because we lost from march or pardon me from december 2015 to march 2017 the republican party contracted we lost 23% of republicans age 18 to 29. that coincides with the rise of trump. there are some younger who don t feel there is a place for them at the table. i think the party contract aid mong other generations. while you see the mo more alt-right, claiming those people along like myself, bill crystals and others. i think there is an undertone and a lot of us thinking among leaders and spilling over and just waiting for donald trump to pack it up and go away. i think you have to reach a
couple of months, i don t think they will have anywhere else to go. every week we, i, my colleagues ask the question are republicans getting worried to the degree where that thin blue line, as it were, breaks up, that they start to lose their confidence in him and start to come out, and you have heard it from a handful, but really the same handful, like the ben sasses of the world. speaker ryan, ah, he s just new at it. everything is fine. by the way, let s talk tax cuts. because that s what s going to get them re-elected in their district is tax cuts, you know. if a health care bill that people actually like goes through. things like that are more tangible to people s lives than the russia investigation outside of d.c. and new york. that said, if if, you know, come close to 2018 nothing got done and we re still talking about russia, i think you re going to see a lot more republicans cast trump aside. comes down to self-preservation. and everything hinges on mueller. we don t
himself isn t willing to stick to a disciplined message. charlie always i say the same thing, that is republicans were the heros of watergate. which republicans are you watching? do you sense any migration, any movement. no, you are not going to see the elected officials move until the base moves. you are going to see a chriscal mass of principled republicans around john mccain. you know, so you are going to watch the john mccains. you are going to watch the ben sasses, watch the lindsey grahams, what they are going to do. again on this whole issue of what s going to change and deal with the crisis, almost every single crisis that this white house has experienced has been self inconflicted. they are doing it to themselves, and bringing in other outside people is not going to change this when at the core of this white house is donald trump and donald trump is not going to change. but, again, it is going to be interest to see when republicans will draw the line. we are a long way fro