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generation of disgruntled young men who were radicalized. did you get the sense at all, ben, walking around there and talking to people in the area that they were completely shocked by this? or did some of them have a sense that, well, this is an area where something like this could happen, if at all? you know, you hit it right on the head. there was the feeling of this is how it is. this is how things are now. in neighborhoods like this, you can see sort of outward signs of more sort of religious leanings. france used to be a country that prided itself on kind of keeping religious appearances out of the public domain. and there s certainly been a shift here towards more kind of
appear to be troops out in military uniforms out on the street. all they re doing is holding the cordon. they re not in any way involved directly in the operation. but it is a jarring sight to see armed troops on the streets of a quiet town in france. i m sure many of the citizens feel the same way as you do. ben plesser, nbc news producer travels with richard engel, we appreciate you being on the phone with us and giving us all that information. again, just to reiterate, for those of you who are just joining us at this hour, police raids starting at about 4:20 saint-denis, paris, france, time this morning being carried out in that suburb. it s a french suburb just north of paris. police believed they were targeting a man named abdelhamid abaaoud, the alleged mastermind. he was the likely target of this
there at the scene. here we are. these police officers sort of took a little bit of a detour from the area where they had been performing the raid. and all of a sudden started running and doing a pretty aggressive search by these cars up here. unclear exactly what they were looking for, but certainly by the looks of it they believed that be some was outside of the building that they were doing performing the raid on. you know, leaving people to wonder whether or not abdelhamid abaaoud perhaps was not inside that building or one of his associates who they were looking for. we re not sure at this point, but this is video that ben plesser and his team got earlier this morning in saint-denis where those raids were taking place. again, just to recap here, two suspects dead after these early-morning raids in the suburb of saint-denis. that s about 20 minutes north of paris. and again, very close to the stade de france where france and germany was playing the soccer game which was interrupt
aggressively keeping that cordon safe. when we approached, they were shining powerful flashlights into our vehicle and then into our faces and screaming get away! get away! they had their guns drawn. they were very obviously very much on edge. the situation was clearly still very fluid, and they were still in the process of figuring out where all the people that they were looking for, all the people that they had encountered in this raid were. now several hours later, their posture has relaxed quite a bit. they re clearly much more comfortable having control of the area, and they re not as aggressive. but the cordon is still up. it appears we may have lost ben again. let me tell you about that video we were just seeing. it was actually video that ben and his team shot as they were
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