welcome back to the programme. are the west in ukraine to repel russia, or to help ukraine win this war? what is the end game? and how quickly can it be delivered? the ukraine contact group recommited to the fight today, but there are concerns over the slow progress of the counteroffensive. we will discuss that with our panel tonight. ron christie, former special assistant to former president george w bush, and from italy natalie tocci, the director of the institue of international affairs, in rome. i am sure they will both have a view on al and the threats it presents to our mutual defence. the un security council discussed it for the the first time today. and donald trump already indicted, but now expecting to face further federal charges over his involvement in the jan 6 riot. what does that mean to his chances of returning to the white house? all that to come.
defenses. we know that especially for thinking about the salt that the first 25 for thinking about the salt that the first 25 km for thinking about the salt that the first 25 km of that 90 km stretch is heavily first 25 km of that 90 km stretch is heavily mined. there ukrainians rightly heavily mined. there ukrainians rightly want to limit their losses. in the rightly want to limit their losses. in the sense speed was ever to be a realistic in the sense speed was ever to be a realistic proposition to this counteroffensive. to realistic proposition to this counteroffensive.- realistic proposition to this counteroffensive. ., , ., counteroffensive. to me the question is. counteroffensive. to me the question is- because counteroffensive. to me the question is. because of counteroffensive. to me the question is. because of course counteroffensive. to me the question is. because of course ben counteroffensive. to me the question is. because of course ben wallace l is. beca
ukraine and getting feedback and finally getting their products tested with the best quality seal you can get in the world because without the largest war of the generation. and probably those products that would be produced locally and by then the war would be here, the best in class. a good incentive for defence industries to come and start production in ukraine. ., , ., ., , , , ukraine. ron christie, what happens if this counteroffensive ukraine. ron christie, what happens if this counteroffensive is ukraine. ron christie, what happens if this counteroffensive is judged - if this counteroffensive is judged on it to the winter we were quite literally into a frozen conflict? do you think the west is ready for the? good evening, christian for them i was a pleasure to see you, my friend. i think we re in bit of a quagmire spot. how do we define success? is success repealing the russian federation forces from ukraine? is success having some sort of line drawn where they can then
saying the ukrainians themselves are saying. what we ve been hearing, especially saying. what we ve been hearing, especially over the last couple of weeks especially over the last couple of weeks is especially over the last couple of weeks is the counteroffensive is not going weeks is the counteroffensive is not going as weeks is the counteroffensive is not going as fast as we would like. desire going as fast as we would like. desire and expectations are two different desire and expectations are two different things. this doesn t necessarily mean that the counteroffensive is going slower than what the ukrainians or the united than what the ukrainians or the united states or european allies expected. we would like it to be much expected. we would like it to be much faster but that s a completely different much faster but that s a completely different question. i kind of looked back at different question. i kind of looked back at where we were at last year and essenti
taiwan by china. or any incursion more than we ve already seen in the south china sea. i think the chinese understand where we re coming from. i think we need to send a clear signal to vladimir putin and his allies, particularly in belarus and other countries near ukraine that this is who we re and this is the line we have drawn for that we just haven t done that thus far in my opinion. haven t done that thus far in my oinion. ., ., haven t done that thus far in my oinion. . . ., ~ ., opinion. natalie, we ve talked and man of opinion. natalie, we ve talked and many of the opinion. natalie, we ve talked and many of the media opinion. natalie, we ve talked and many of the media is opinion. natalie, we ve talked and many of the media is to opinion. natalie, we ve talked and many of the media is to blame - opinion. natalie, we ve talked and many of the media is to blame for| opinion. natalie, we ve talked and l many of the media is to blame for a tipping point, may be we re sev