How hate groups target vulnerable people. [inaudible conversations] welcome, everyone, to the Commonwealth Club california. Just a quick housekeeping, of course, if you have anything that mix noises cell phones, beepers, husbands, whatever if you could just put them on silent for the rest of the program. Of course, recording this for tv and podcast, so we appreciate the nonbeepingness. And now i would like to turn it over to our, my ecohost and the person whose name is on the show, michelle meow. [laughter] thanks so much, john. Thank you. Welcome to michelle meow show. If youre here for the first time, its your az covering the ag, l, m, n, o, p and everyone in between. [laughter] our special guest tonight is the finder of the free radicals prompt, a Global Network of former extremists who work on deradicallizing others trying to lee the movement leave the movement hes a proud father of two, a husband and an author, and here to talk about his new book, braching hate confronting the new