so swiftly from a diplomatic track that was succeed to go this bellicosity. there was obviously a big development between those two. there s an argument that donald trump, the loose cannon, could incentivize china to hold north korea to what they agreed to. we ve had u.s. presidents who are nice and polite and appeasing, trying to use diplomacy and strategic patience to get north korea to cooperate and they continued to develop nuclear capability. and i think the fundamental question we have to ask is, every president says we will not allow north korea to get a nuclear weapon that can hit the continental united states. they say that s a red line, we will not. really? are we really committed to that? or are we okay with it? i think it s perfectly plausible to say, look, pakistan and other
he s doing this, a very defensive, i feel threatened gesture. it shows people that you want to be removed from the situation. you want to be protected. it s not actually the body language i would coach my president to use. nor that language. we have to be strong. we have to be strong, it s a real threat. that language is also at odds with what secretary of state rex tillerson said just days ago. what was odd to me was that trump just won a great diplomatic victory over north korea this past saturday by getting a unanimous vote in the u.n. security council to impose really tough new economic sanctions on north korea. got china and russia to go along with it. and got by partisan praise for it. you heard democrats and trump critics say this was on track. so it s odd that he would switch so swiftly from a diplomatic track that was succeed to go this bellicosity. there was obviously a big
in the western pacific. now, do you take this seriously? a lot of bellicosity? i myself haven t yet met anyone in the united states who really knows how to gauge the true intents of the north korean regime. maybe dennis rodman does, but i don t. over a piece of chocolate cake. a lot of worrisome just a lot of worrisome issues right here. ambassador mark ginsburg, thanks for breaking it down for us. sure. good to be with you. up next, senator bernie sanders and dnc chair tom perez join forces to heal divisions in the democratic party. a live look from las vegas coming up.
themselves. we re back with debra messing. so thrilled. harold ford. our philadelphia accents are incapable of saying harold. we can t say that. i blame it on my acnt. former democratic congressman om the state of tennessee and an msnbc analyst. i see the two tabs at the dawn of a new era today. the two hating each other tabs had the same headline. what s your s tomorrow? carnage. there s a bellicosity, there was a denunciation of what washington stands for and it was quite bold but bleak. there was not a lot of light or hopefulness or unity. there was not poetry or high-mindedness. there was concrete language, there was donald trump dancing with the gal who brung him. well, i say that all the time. you re exactly right. the guys from the rust belt. but there is a jack nicholson joker. it was like the tim burton
that was astonishing to the whole debate. a bellicosity, an ignorance about real foreign policy and national security policy and history. we carpet bombed last in vietnam, didn t work. these strategies of going in on our own and boots on the ground to sacrifice an apocalyptic vision that isis would like us, to be invited in, to see our soldiers beheaded. this is real recklessness. and the generals, if you talk to the generals, you talk to the foreign policy experts a s in t national security community, they are horrified by this kind of talk. kathleen, were you surprised? cruz and rubio have sorry, trump and cruz have taken shots at each other out on the campaign trail in interviews, sometimes privately, out on the campaign trail, but on the stage, donald trump saying, oh, he s a good guy.