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point, in the known 80s, democrats kept losing elections. bill clinton came from that this was this instant thing bill clinton formed an alliance in wall street. there was a third way move him for bell daily, a third way guy. he tried to have the grand bar gen for republicans in 2011. now i wonder post grand bargain. you listen to obama this week. i wonder if we re at a turning point. that dlc generation that defined the democratic party, if that is fading off in the scene. you mentioned 2011, i think to go fwok the third way op-ed, i think they are strategic as well as substantive. one of the tweaks during this time is his manner of negotiating is to say i will offer you this. it didn t work auto very well. think they say say here are

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