the other hand, says this. i ll put it up on the screen. kadyrbayev located a backpack that contained an emptied-out cardboard tube that tazhayakov described as fireworks. this discovery frightened tazhayakov because the powder had been emptied from the tube. kadyrbayev also found a jar of vaseline in the room and told tazhayakov that he believeded tsarnaev had used the vaseline to make bombs. jeffrey, it sounds very different stories, and very different conclusions there. well, i think the conclusions are different. the stories aren t really all that different. mr. stahl, the lawyer, is acknowledging that this new defendant removed the backpack and got rid of it. what he s disputing is what his intent was in doing that. the fbi, in its allegations, says he was doing it to hide evidence, to help out tsarnaev. what mr. stahl is saying is there s some other innocent explanation. so he s trying to set up an