under obamacare. so when we talk about the death spiral and the imploding obamacare, we re talking about 10 million people. it s not a small number, it s very significant, very important. there are 70 million people on medicaid. there are far more people on medicaid than there were at the beginning of obamacare. so the effect on medicaid in this legislation is much bigger than the effect on the individual insurance market. those are the two pieces of information to look at very closely and i will carry on through this and then i ll get back to yeah, we ll keep a camera on you. i can see the steam coming out of your ears. kasie hunt, does this achieve the president s stated goal of wanting the senate bill to have more heart than the house bill? reporter: well, nicolle, i m digesting it and so are members on capitol hill right along with you on air. i have not found anyone yet the
along with that? it seems like at this point democrats have very little incentive to pitch in and try to make this work. it s a way to salvage obamacare were events had 11 states something else, i do want the president to succeed on the democrats. i want people to have health care, affordable health care. i i don t want insurance compans to fail. melissa: it you say don t go to the dems. doug is a misreading what he is a good democrat and congressional leaders particularly nancy pelosi aired bad democrats. you re right, there s no incentive for them to come to the table. their pitch again just as equally and as hard as they criticized mcconnell for doing at the beginning of obamacare. the president has to do what he s doing. he s talking gently to them through twitter, he s going to stadium events, he s going to have ten or 12 vulnerable seat
really not even a compromise at all is the democrats want to exceed the sequester caps, these things that we put into law to restrain spending already. and it s funny they re all about obamacare being the law of the land, but so is the sequester. the sequester is the law of the land. if we exceed that, it s a real big step in the wrong direction. i agree with him on that. i do think, though, that he and lots of other people are stopping with the obamacare. you just get a little glimpse of it $635 million to create a website that doesn t work. that s the beginning of obamacare. they have had years to get this website up. websites today, you hire some young group of people from wherever they may be, and they can do websites for nothing. they spent $635 million on creating a website that doesn t work. this is the beginning of obamacare. i think that s probably a good beginning compared to what s going to happen ultimately. something has to happen with obamacare. and i will say, i think