counsel, the special the lawyer in the white house who was in charge of dealing with the mueller investigation. right. the point they have beening may been making is anything michael flynn could plead guilty to has nothing to do with donald trump. right. you will hear that about this guilty plea today. a false statement to the fbi on january 24th, 2017, does not tell you that the trump campaign or certainly donald trump, did anything untoward with russia during the campaign. it is a discreet crime, it is an individual crime, it is not a conspiracy, and that, i think, is a legitimate point to make on the part of, you know, trump partisans. i think everybody lies is not a very effective argument. everybody does not lie when they are interviewed by the fbi. i assure you of that. want to bring in our chief political correspondent dana bash joins us now. dana, again, we re hearing