a public place like times square? it all depends on the circumstances. one aspect of this is and we saw this in najibullah zazi case here, it s very difficulties to get explosives. you ll see these individuals trying to put it together. we had zazi, who used a beauty supply products peroxide and in this case we see firecrackers that are legally available, pennsylvania, for instance, you can get these types of fireworks. they are m-88s. that in a way is good news. you see them trying to jerry rig rather than take readily made explosives. worst case scenario if it had went off, what would have been the destruction? we think we would have seen a