already the human toll of this battle for mariupol has been appalling with thousands, including many civilians, killed. but ukrainian officials say another russian offensive is now under way, posing another deadly threat to those trapped inside. matthew chance, cnn, new york. i m joined now from los angeles by a political science professor at ucla, author of the return: russia s journey from gosrbachev to medvedev. a major objective for russia in the south is to establish this land bridge from the crimea region to the donbas. can they do that without totally clearing the mariupol area of the ukrainian fighters? are those last ukrainian soldiers and defenders holed up in the steel plant essentially determining the course of this
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