to internal security. my guest is greek migration minister notis mitarachi. has his government lost the confidence of the greek people? notis mitarachi in athens, welcome to hardtalk. thank you so much. the whole world has watched with a great deal of concern and sympathy the unfolding of this disaster in greece. 57 lives lost in that terrible train crash. do you believe it s going to be seen as a turning point in greece, that business
and in the european union, we are still struggling to find an agreement on the new pact on migration asylum. we still suffer. we cannot find a way to provide solidarity among ourselves in the european union. first reception countries, countries in the centre of europe. we need to solve these issues. and on thursday, at the council of the european union, i hope we do a step forward in finding a suitable and lasting solution in the european migration pact. you re still a very long way from that, aren t you, minister? within the european union. we are very far away from an agreement. that s true. because we don t have a solidarity mechanism, but that s what s missing. at the heart of the pact is the solidarity mechanism and the voluntary mechanism we agreed last year. listen to that it only relocated less than half a percent of the 2022 arrivals. less than half a percentage point. and that s a big problem. we have to end on that rather bleak note. minister notis mitarachi, i thank you v
spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly that his phone was infected with this predator spyware. absolutely. and we have very vocally said that the government has no relationship whatsoever with the use or ownership of any spyware. you know, spywares are not the prerogative of governments or of the greek government, for that matter, for which reason somebody would have access to this kind of software and would like to listen illegally because under greek law, it s illegal to wiretap anyone through the use of spyware remains to be seen. and that s the subject of a judicial review. what surprised us, and i don t want to bring too much domestic politics into bbc hardtalk is that it was a serious felony illegal wiretapping. the previous left wing government made it a misdemeanourjust before the elections, and we had to change the law again and make it a felony. and now it s again a felony i
infrastructure and a lack of accountability at the heart of government. other aspects of public policy are also facing harsh scrutiny, from migration to internal security. my guest is greek migration minister notis mitarachi. has his government lost the confidence of the greek people? notis mitarachi in athens, welcome to hardtalk. thank you so much. the whole world has watched with a great deal of concern and sympathy the unfolding of this disaster in greece.