counsel has interviewed a great number of witnesses, including some of the aides closest to donald trump at mar-a-lago. and after the several week hiatus, it would suggest that the special counsel is looking to either continue their work or wrap up even potentially their work. there s no indication at this time that prosecutors are ready to try to indict the former president. but it is notable here that the special counsel in june is convening this grand jury again in what would amount to potentially very serious federal and criminal charges against the former president, ones that could really complicate a presidential campaign if in fact normally doesn t go to trial, but if he were to be found guilty, there would be a lot of question marks legally about his ability moving forward to not only run as a viable candidate, but to ultimately serving capacity as president again. , funder my friend, i appreciate you getting up and getting a start at the sunday
directly attack donald trump for his statement, but she drew a clear policy contrast and worldview contrast to battle donald trump there. the question is, is simply drawing policy contrast without going on the attack against donald trump, is that enough? tonight, over the course of the hour, i think it ll be a good indicator of the extent to which she on the campaign trail is willing to focus on donald trump as the men and a human versus donald trump and policies. vaughn, before i have to let you go, quickly, we have exclusive reporting from nbc news that a grand jury that s been investigating former president donald trump in terms of his handling or perhaps mishandling of classified documents, the grand jury has been on hiatus for a few weeks, on, it supporters to convene this week, that s usually a sign that there is the possibility that an indictment might be looming. what do you have or what have you heard in des moines about this news that has come out? we know that the specia
lie, which was one of the most egregious attempts to undermine the fate of the american people in free and fair elections. and to, that he incited, planned, and led an insurrection against his own government. those are the first two things anybody should hear about this man who unbelievably enough, because of our deeply broken system, is being allowed to run for president again. you know, mary, i want you to stay with us. we have the privilege and the luxury of being able to have you for another block. i also want to tease that later on in the show, we are going to have some coverage about a censorship by. there is a parent in escambia county florida who s actually fighting back against book bans. mary is gonna be with us after take a quick break. take a quick break buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that s a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it s gone on the subway app. age is just a number,
debate stage. it was a wink at saying he will sign that loyalty pledge. of course, there is nothing, you know, come the time that one wins or loses, gonna hold them to account on that. it looks like we should expect the other candidates are gonna sign that pledge and it means a chance to go on the debate stage with donald trump. vaughn, we know nikki haley is gonna have a seat in town hall tonight, we also know how that worked for donald trump previously. what should we expect to hear take place during that town hall? right, nikki haley is trying to present herself as the new generation leader for the republican party. and so, it ll be interesting to see the contrast in which engages with those questions. i did have the chance to ask her yesterday in a quick pull-aside opportunity with her about donald trump social media posts on friday, in which he was congratulating kim jong-un. she told me that kim jong-un s a thug and a tyrant. the sort of contrast, didn t
that will be helpful for democracy. but how should mainstream media handle this 2024 election cycle? so far, we ve seen runaway town halls and networks that continue to court election deniers. katie, it s really shocking. you know, i haven t had much hope for the mainstream media sends probably the iraq war. you know, in 2016, it was reporting. this notion that both sides deserve equal time, even though one of those sides is constantly lying. by the way, undermining democracy, it s pretty shocking, even though i guess it isn t surprising anymore. first of all, i have never quite understood why they continue to treat donald trump as a normal candidate. i think the very first thing that should be said about him when anybody s reporting on anything he s doing is that he is the perpetrator of the big