you can understand, this is the protocol. put somebody over there, question them, get their name. they re careful saying in is not the person we re looking for. at that point they had a rhyme or reason to what happened and they had to find this individual. neil: thanks. let s go to a reporter right now. she s on the scene at chapel hill. how are things there right now, cassie? well, within the last 30 minutes, things have calmed down since when the shelter in place was in effect. we ve seen dozens of students come out. many said that they were in a bathroom hunkered down not knowing what was going on. they said they re going to their dorms. classes are cancelled the rest of the day here. a lot of people trying to process what happened.