passions of an audience that gets overlooked and giving them a voice in media. and oh, by the way, he makes a penny or two out of it. joining us now is the writer at large for the new york times, also a consulting producer for this show the murdochs empire of influence. thank you so much for joining us this evening. rupert murdoch, of course, one of the most powerful forces in modern media. when you look back at his career how key has been fomenting anger and division been to that success? well, i guess you could think of it as rupert murdoch like the political party specifically like the republican party these days really it was about playing to a base voter. and that alone can be divisive, but because very much the sensibility was my media outlets are with you against them. when it comes to politics,
is that a fair assessment? how do you see the turnout operation in georgia? one of the pieces of my approach to politics that seems to confound people is that i treat all voters as folders. i don t take for granted that anyone shares my values will choose to vote. so where the typical political dynamic says that persuading people that don t share your political ideology all the time to come with you for once, my approach is to say, how do we share our values and how do we persuade people either to share those values or to participate in the election? because those are both very important binary choices, and we choose to overlook the vast community of people who choose not to vote because they don t feel themselves in the conversation that gets relegated to the sort of, all that s base voting. it s not base voting if you don t participate in the elections. you re not a base voter unless you actually vote. we see those communities as
feel themselves in the conversation that gets relegated to the sort of, all that s base voting. it s not base voting if you don t participate in the elections. you re not a base voter unless you actually vote. we see those communities as persuasion votes as important as moderate republicans, as important as independents. we go after all of them. when i talk about medicaid expansion in georgia, access to health care is not going to be determined based on your partisanship. it s going to be determined based on your income and in georgia if you make less than $9 an hour, the current governor denies you access to health care. i will give that to you, using your own money, the money that georgians have already paid into the system. and so i don t see the tension for the conflict with the approach that brian senator warnock takes because we re
tom cotton has built a reputation on acting like the toughest guy on the planet, but he can t even put in front of his eyes, you know, a narrative which may challenge his soul, that he has to go tell his people the truth. republicans that are watching, let me tell you this, every one of your leaders that refuse to tell you that the election wasn t stolen, joe biden is a legitimate president, and that trump has poisoned our country, anyone that refuses to tell you, that doesn t believe it, 99% of them, they re abusing you, they re lying to you. and you should throw them out with anger because you need leaders that tell you the truth. be ticked at me. be ticked at liz cheney all you want. fine. we can take it. we re telling you the truth. the people that lie to you and pat you on the head and make you feel good, but they re abusing you, stealing your money to stay in power. i have no subpympathy for tom cotton or anybody else like kevin mccarthy that lies to the base voter. those base
hearing, guys. i m too cool to watch the hearings but i ve got my mind made up. that probably works. tom could the only has built a reputation of acting like the toughest guy on the planet but he can t even put in front of his eyes a narrative which may challenge his soul that he will have to tell the people the truth? the people you re lying to may be patting you on the head. i have no sympathier to people like tom cotton or anyone else that lies to the base voter. what about that, david? unplugged, as you said. as much as a congressman can be unplugged, really. there is no doubt kinzinger and cheney as the two republicans on the january 6th committee are out there day in and day out, fighting this fight. totally against the grain of the leadership of their party. of the voters in their party. at left the majority of them.