did you hear that? seacrest is on speed dial. he sure wise. congrats to pat sajak and such an impressive run. and way to go ryan, on your new gig. on that note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i ll see you at the end of tomorrow. of tomorrow we have some breaking news tonight from the new york times this evening, some reporting that makes a recently unearthed trump recording even more incredible. if you ve not yet heard it, nbc news has independently obtained the audio of former president trump and his bedminster unit new jersey golf club, essentially admitting to a crime. here is trump in july of 2021 telling a group of people that he still has classified information after leaving the white house, and then proceeding to destroy his own defense. he explicitly says on audiotape that he could have declassified this when he was president, but he did not. take a listen. isn t that amazin
this evening. alex wagner tonight starts right tonight with my good, friend alex wagner. ts righ thank you, chris, and thk you as always for joining us this hour. we have some breaking news tonight from the new york times this evening, some reporting that makes a recently unearthed trump recording even more incredible. if you ve not yet heard it, nbc news has independently obtained the audio of former president trump and his bedminster unit new jersey golf club, essentially admitting to a crime. here is trump in july of 2021 telling a group of people that he still has classified information after leaving the white house, and then proceeding to destroy his own defense. he explicitly says on audiotape that he could have declassified this when he was president, but he did not. take a listen. isn t that amazing? this totally wins my case. except it is highly confidential this was done by the military and given to me. i think that we can probably do that, yes? we ll have to
thank you both. that is all in on this tuesday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now with my good friend, alex wagner. good evening, alex. good evening, chris. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we have breaking news tonight from the new york times this evening, some reporting that makes a recently unearthed chunk reporting even more incredible. if you have not yet heard nbc news has independently obtained the audio of former president trump at his bedminster, new jersey, golf club essentially admitting to a crime. here s trump in july 2021 telling a group of people he still has classified information after leaving the white house and then proceeding to destroy his own defense. he explicitly says on audiotape that he could have declassified this when he was president but he did not. take a listen. i just found isn t that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know? except it is like highly confidential. yeah, yeah. secretive this is secre
collectively. i think the reality is we know that dehumanizing rhetoric and dehumanizing language paints the way towards people who have been dehumanized, right? so if we have a major political figure going to track against such language and be so divorced from reality it s important to not serve as a signal boosting platform for them, not to stream or live tweeting every racist utterance but wrapping those things in context. this is in some ways an incendiary example but in some ways i don t think it is. we would not all day every day be live tweeting everything he says about jewish people. why would we not do that, right? because we understand by the function of that we are just spreading the lies. we are spreading the rhetoric, we are normalizing it. when people see their most base prejudices reflected back on public stages, the permission structure to now express them themselves.
is what would it look like if louis farakhan were running for president? we would not every day all day the live tweeting everything he says about jewish people. why would we not do that? we understand that by the function of, that we are just spreading the lies, we are spreading the rhetoric, we are normalizing it. when people see the most base prejudices reflected back on public stages, it gives them permission to structure, and now express them some selves. as we talked about, that there is an explicit example, an explicit policy area that has been kind of the hotbed of some of those disgusting and violently racist rhetoric, which is whenever you have donald trump or ron desantis talking about immigration, to me, on the outside, immigration feels like the kind of county fair, where republicans are invited in to give their most to dehumanize brown and black people in a way that is explicitly racist, but is sort of covered by the veneer of questions of legality and what we are goi