not planning on it. i think it s true well, i think mccarthy doesn t want to default. i think most of the republicans don t want to default. i don t know if all of them believe that or if all of them realize what kind of crisis it would be if in fact we did. the reality is we don t need all of them. we need the majority of members in congress. go ahead, max. my friend to the right of me both literally and figuratively is missing something cuply critical here, which is that when these members say we re not going to default, we re not going to default but then they engage in this incredibly irresponsible action, let s judge them by what they re doing, not by what they re saying. and this is incredibly dangerous and merely representative of the fact they re playing base politics. guys, i m sorry we re out of time. we have so much still coming up. stick around for this. up next i m going to speak to shonda rhymes, the creative
has more of a vision for what the future is, someone who can speak to their hopes, and their dreams, to their aspirations as much as we see people activating their base politics right now this is ultimately going to come down to those swingiest of swing voters in those nine suburb areas around the country and whether or not the candidate can answer the question affirmatively does this person understand the problems of people like me and have a plan for the future that s the message that s going to win that s such an interesting point, kevin and dan, i would love to get your thoughts on that because so much of what seems to animate american politics right now is pessimism and who can scare the crap out of voters more effectively? and certainly biden has done his fair share and said it s me or the apocalypse do you think it s the message that s the deciding factor kevin is correct the more
dreams, their aspirations. as much as we see these people activating the base politics right now, this is ultimatel going to come down to thos swing voters, and like nin suburb areas around the country. whether or not the candidate who can win can answer the question affirmatively, does this person understand the problems of people like me, an have a plan for the future as much as the base activation goes on, when we get down to the wax few weeks of thi campaign, that s the message that s going to win. it s such an interestin point, kevin, and dan, i would love to get your points on that so much of what seems to animate american politics righ now is pessimism, and who ca scare the crap out of th voters more effectively. certainly biden has done his fair share of saying, it s either me or the apocalypse. do you think that is the optimism message that actually the closing decidin factor kevin is correct that the more optimistic candidate ha essentially won almost every election with
ultimately, the people who mak or break these elections ultimately they go with th more optimistic candidate. they go at the candidate tha has more of a vision with what the future is, somebody that can speak to their hopes and dreams, their aspirations. as much as we see these people activating the base politics right now, this is ultimatel going to come down to thos swing voters, and like nin suburb areas around th country. whether or not the candidate who can win can answer the question affirmatively, does this person understand the problems of people like me, an have a plan for the future as much as the base activation goes on, when we get down to the wax few weeks of thi campaign, that s the message that s going to win. it s such an interestin point, kevin, and dan, i would love to get your points on that so much of what seems to animate american politics righ now is pessimism, and who ca scare the crap out of th voters more effectively. certainly biden has done his fair share o
wouldn t they delight in just being able to focus on biden and not actually have to talk about trump or whoever the candidate is and the vision for the republican party but it also goes to what you were mentioning earlier, which is that so many of the most ardent based voters right now what motivates them more than anything is this idea that they are part of an effort to stop joe biden from destroying the country, and that is really what s animating base politics right now, so you re going to hear message after message not only does it raise money but it s sort of calcifies the most ardent, active republican base voter to support the rnc and be active dan, i wonder what you think of president biden s rollout video, which was i will just say better produced than the robot hell scape from the rnc. it has a vision, right, the finish the job mantra, which i guarantee we ll be hearing a lot about. but it also does propose, you