country that s trying to get along. we re not really trying to interfere in anybody s elections. and these press conferences really played toward that. why president trump needs that is something that is harder to understand. but what the russians were trying to do was push this whole thing forward. that statement by ivanov, base clay sayi ically saying we confirm there was no hacking and the u.s. president agrees with it. and we ll be asking everybody we in washington, did president trump really accept this? did he really say that? it sounds out of this world that he would just go and put it away like that with the entire country interested in this investigation. ambassador mcfaul, i have the final question for you. it may be the hardest to answer. going forward, is the trump administration taking the position that russia either didn t meddle or it barely mattered, so it s all good, or is there a view that to the extent they meddled, it was to