they rationalize injustice they rationalize authoritarianism, they rationalize racial violence. what we are seeing in tennesse in 2023 is both of those movements. we are seeing reconstructionis and both justin s and all th people supporting them are bot really constructionist supporters are multi racia democracy. but we re also seein redemption assists these are 24 century redemptio is to have a narrative him ant democracy, and i m like racism but it s a narrative fille with grievances, a narrative that justifies racia subjugation. a narrative that presents whit people as really wounded warriors for america patriotism but it s patriotism that s an exclusive patriotism it s not an inclusive mult racial patriotism. so in many ways what we ar living through during this third reconstruction, which th for a pivot points are barac obama, black lives matter on
sitting president, barac obama. all of that preceded donal trump. and all of that tells us a lot about where we are now trump was an incredibl powerful, dangerous, awful too of that party. but and he actually permitted us t see if some of these things, which i think both democrats and the political media were willfully blind to for a lon time that s part of the conversatio you just had but right now, in this moment, where he is being tried fo things, indicted for thing
senator tina smith, democrat o minnesota. senator, thank yo for coming on politicsnation. want to go right to it. i want to start by asking you about the politics of this trump indictment. trump, and many of his defenders in the republica party have called the stormy daniels case a witch hunt. but a consistent refrain from trum has been to call for his political enemies to be locked up. most famously, hillary clinton. but also presiden biden, hunter biden, barac obama, congressman adam schiff congresswoman omar from your state, michigan governor gretchen whitmer, and former fbi director robert mueller, just to name a few that he has called to be locked up. how do you explain this doubl standard well, hello reveren sharpton. it is so nice to b with you. call me old fashioned, but i don t think it is ever
felons and criminals are who testify against felons and criminals. and if he forgot, he can ask rudy giuliani. he used many of them to pu people in yeah, exactly michael cohen, thank you for being with us. great to see, you rev all right praying for you and your famil whatever you decide, i don t want anybody heard in this including donald trump me too. thank you former trum attorney michael cohen joining me now is eric holder, former u.s. attorney general under president obama. he is chair of the nationa democratic redistricting committee, and also the author of a great book called our unfinished march and mr. attorney general, it s great to see you as always it s been too long since we ha no politicsnation. you did my radio show the othe day. and before i get to what i going on in wisconsin where yo are and we want to talk abou this high profile supreme cour election on tuesday there i
you were serving as president obama s attorney general when 20 children and six adults were shot in killed at sandy hook elementary political question. given thes repeated shootings, given wh these victims are, in addition to the adults lost their lives we are sending these littl angels to graves well before their time. as a result of thi out of control gun culture tha