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lee. i want to bring in criminal defense and civil rights attorney john burress, he handled the rodney king suit against the city of los angeles. joining us la tish a james as well. let me start with john. let s look at the case. we know cause of death was homicide, there was a ban on the choke hold. we also know the officer involved was using what he testified before the grand jury a wrestling move. the choke hold is a wrestling move. john, how do you believe the grand jury came to the conclusion of no indictment with those facts? i think the grand jury basically took the position that he was trying to get mr. garner under control and that mr. garner had resisted and that he was using what he viewed as reasonable force. he is a big man, therefore he tried to do a take down on him. and i think in his own mind s eye, he was trying to get him down. he put his arm in the wrong place. a bar hold is not legal, and should not have been done.