moved up now to the organizers of the people who breached the capitol, and from there, they will keep moving up. and we ve seen examples of traditional cooperators, one of the january 6th witnesses was somebody who breached the capitol and he spoke in the language of a cooperator which is like an apost tate, i used to be believe in all of this, but that very bad man, he s the one that made me breach the capitol and of course i m paraphrasing but that is the general theme of a classic cooperator, and that is what the d.o.j. does best. the january 6th committee doesn t have that power. they can t go to somebody and said you re at a cross roads, you can either stay loyal to your old friends or cooperate with us and avoid jail time or get the least jail time possible. so this is proceeding in a classic d.o.j. process. they will keep moving up and up and up until they cannot move up any further did. we learn anything new from merrick garland s interview yesterday or even the explosive wash