put the strategy in place that led to the defeat of isis. harris: i think we have seen evolution fighting what i call the islamic state savages in this case. there is a fine line between doing the job that maria is talking band occupying. where are we? the caliphate is based on the occupation of land. when you have this vacuum of the military, the united states military pulling back, you don t have the leadership, the expertise and the intelligence to be able to control that territory. that s the problem. and so it was surprising, i think what donald trump said. but, again, i think his heart is in the right place. we have got to be very careful. harris: i want to ask you, day began, you brought u daganyou brought up this ia what it would look like for iran and russia filling the void there as the congressman said, do we need to stay on the ground to keep intelligence wise that from happening. dagen: some people think in terms of a counter weight. it s not just iran funded by