so their actual records can be assessed. for only understandable focus on trump s nickel problems and controversies and rhetoric, it was his substance handling of the covid pandemic that impacted so many laughs and dragged him down in the eyes of mary and americans who concluded he found the task when faced with that all-important leadership test. as for trump, he said at the time he did not see the emergency as his test of a lifetime. was there a moment in all of this, the last two months, where you say to yourself, a, this is the leadership test of a lifetime. no. no. no hesitation. that is a small part of one of trump s new for the interviews with bob woodward, conducted across the upper of the pandemic and through the campaign. wilbert secured more time with trump than any other writer. 20 and others across that stretch, trump sometimes making the calls, something he apparently not regret. the former president is so when woodward, we should note, over publishing the
we have taken away the public health funding to create that very infrastructure to stand up to the manhattan project, if we need it. and the humanity that s missing. a lot of us that have survived and watched these deaths, what i would love to have seen for the president is that moment of humanity that we saw when joe biden finally let the candlelight village, vigil, not far from here, for the lives that we lost. that s you can just run from it without facing it. dr. patel, thanks for joining. us ball bob, i have one more set of questions for you. stay with us. stay with us top grills and gear. with smoking fast shipping. and wayfair deals so epic. you ll feel like a big deal. yes! so get outdoorsy for way less at wayfair. wayfair, you ve got just what i need
and bob, when you look at this urging the sometimes to, and we have in july 20 where we have him focused on the campaign against defensive when you talk about responsibility. let s talk about that. you have to be fair, i think. i don t think you have to be tough. yeah yeah, that includes being fair but there is. nobody s done what i ve done. bob in three have years. it s not my fault. but the virus that s china s fault. lindsey graham is right. you are running against the virus, not joe biden. well i m running against both. this picks up where we left top, with you, bob, which was yes, you asked questions, but sometimes, especially with someone like this, you make statements, assertions. you try to get something out of him. what are you doing there, and what were you hoping to get out of him? i m trying to understand what s going on. here are the great lessons of government is not only do you have to listen to people, but you have to take them
also touch on the world we are in right now, a president under investigation, a president in trials. and if you look at their dealings here, there are some parallels on the way the donald trump even, against evidence, tries to argue why he is a certain way or whether he was too busy to deal with, well, what s on his plate. have you ever sat down alone with him and gotten a tutorial yes, i guess, but honestly there s not a lot of time for that, bob. this busy white house. why not hand them over then? because i had boxes, i want to go through the boxes and get all my personal things out. i don t want to hand it over to naira. i was very busy, as you have sort of seen. bob woodward, still with us
sharpen something because the role of enemies and evil. it cement something illness that is not proportionate to the threat or body count. covid was literally this kind of threat. you have the president giving the warning bob mentions. politics raises that with the internal warnings, with a national security advisers. take a look. i think the exact phrase i used was, this would be the biggest national security threat you faced on your presidency. so then you guys made your presentation to trump. did he say anything? well, no, he listened to it carefully. was there a moment in all of this, last two months, where you said to yourself, ah, this is the leadership test of a lifetime. no. first to bob. well, it was. and he has this responsibility. he ran for president and he was elected.