see is that in many places, the trump election denial stuff didn t work. we saw that in almost every battleground state where election deniers last major statewide office. it did work, for all the talk that we have that the republicans to do that well, they did win the house. they re there. so what happens, what does that last election tell you about that conversation? how does this go forward over the next two years? ali, not only do you have some election deniers winning elected office, you also have even in situations where they did not when, you have very close elections. much like the 2020 election, you still have 70 million americans who did vote for former president trump. what that tells you is that this still a very divided, and very polarized political climate, and race and gender in particular remain really powerful, and potent issues in
this is the new republican party. whether trump clings to party over the gop, around desantis picks up the mantle of its fascist leading fever dreams, we have long since learned not to discount the potential of these figures to gain power in this country, and the damage they can inflict if they do gain power in this country. joining me, now erica haines, msnbc contributor and editor of large. celebrating its third birthday. the managing host of roland martin unfiltered, the author of how the browning of america s making white people lose their. my these are to migrate friends. glad to have you here. let me start with you, there was some hope of banks s embolden of republicans, fiscal conservatives who like small governments and low minimum wages who maybe once everyone gets over donald trump, the over to the meeting. they ll go back to the sort of conservatism that was fiscal conservatism. that s not where the republican party is going. it s either going to be trump, or this. ali,
should ve white fear. it is white. the republican party is appealing to white conservative voters. period. that s what this is all about. so they have been driving this idea, and i ve been saying since 09, we are living in the age of what i call white minority resistance. even though they pick up the majority of this country to aaron s point, they feel aggrieved. oh my goodness. our values have been taken away. you pull that trump that quote up again, what does he say? are america, these pro american values, understand what they re saying. the problem is, too many people in mainstream media don t actually wants to confront the white part of this. i ve literally, ali, had black talk show host, national shows, say hey, i can t have you on my show because my white producers
of man and woman hours investigating conspiracy theories and alleged cases of voter fraud. what did they come up with? they came up with what they come up with every couple of, years which is a handful of alleged voter fraud cases. we have got to point a and to that kind of effort to suppress the vote. we have to change this into a guinness that protects voters, protects the right to vote, and move pretext or election officials. our secretary of state, ali, believes in the estimates lead toward a third of the top counsel elections officials in arizona have now resigned over the last year. because of death threats and an intimidation environment. and my job is going to be to protect them going into 2024.
it was really never about. that it was about the culture of policing in the nature of policing and what that is doing to black people. bachmann and women. let s not forget stories like breonna taylor s. let s go to some folks in the way it is almost helpful that these officers are black. because it allows them to zero in on when people join these police departments, what are they being trained to do? what mindset do they take long? i do view people from different neighborhoods and communities in the areas in which they serve. and ultimately, they re hoping that what comes out of this is a focus on the reforms that would actually work. let s have a conversation that is somewhat into black versus. why and something that is more deeply about what policing has become in this country, ali. a lot of the question came up when the officers were arrested. black police. what is this story? about police brutality and