believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. the americans seem to see him as someone who could keep the prison quiet. there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. he wasn t considered from everything we know now, a high level detainee, and he was allowed to lead to prayers, he was allowed to give religious lessons. the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on islam. those inmates were jihadists or former baathists, henchmen of saddam, or simply common criminals. it most assuredly was a jihadist university. unquestionably. put them all together in the baking heat of southern iraq, without baghdadi, a man who dreamed of a new kind of terror, it was a recipe for isis. they were meeting, they were playing soccer together, they were strategizing together. one thing is clear, al baghdadi went through a transformation at camp bucca.
there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca, he was allowed open access to all of them. he wasn t considered from everything that we know now a high-level detainee, and he was allowed to, you know, lead prayers, he was allowed to give religious lessons. the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on islam. those inmates were jihadists or former ba athists, henchmen of saddam, or simply common criminals. it most assuredly was a jihadist university. unquestionably. put them all together in the baking heat of southern iraq, with al baghdadi, a man who dreamed of a new kind of terror, it was a recipe for isis. they were meeting, they were playing soccer together, they were strategizing together.
the military. and here you ve got to ask yourself what is the goal we re working for? what is syria going to look like after all of this is over? we don t want to make the mistake we made in iraq where we destroyed the state structures of iraq. there was no one to give driver s licenses, no one to teach school, no one to run the museums, no one to do anything that previously was done by the state. we invalidated and got rid of them all because they were baathists. now we can t do that in syria because we learned in iraq there is a state of chaos that follows that is simply unacceptable. so it s up to the west, really, to sketch out the outline of how this is going to come together in the aftermath of the use of military force. and then to bring our arab allies in together. you cannot do the bulk of the ground fighting with u.s. forces. it s true. i mean, we re very good at defeating any force of isis. but we re not very good in
the prison quiet. there are 24 camps within the sunni side of camp bucca. he was allowed open access to all of them. he wasn t considered, from everything that we know now, a high-level detainee, and he was allowed to, you know, lead prayers, he was allowed to give religious lessons. reporter: the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on islam. those inmates were jihadists or former ba athists, henchmen of saddam, or simply common criminals. it most assuredly was a jihadist university. unquestionably. reporter: put them all together in the baking heat of southern iraq with al baghdadi, a man who dreamed of a new kind of terror. it was a recipe for isis. they were meeting. they were playing soccer together. they were strategizing together.
the baathists who use their power to oppress the iraqi people will be removed from office. several hundred thousand iraqis who were the people who were the most advantaged to have the best education, all these people lost their jobs. and then, bremer fired saddam s army, a huge force of young iraqi men mostly sunnies turned out into the chaotic streets. of course, they still had their guns. this is a huge concern. general david petraeus was fighting the iraqi insurgency. i said your policy is killing the troops. you literally cast them out of the one institution actually respected in iraq and now they have no future. many critics have pointed to bremer s two orders as the reason for the iraqi insurgency. some say they even led to isis. many of the people who are today with the islamic state on the military side are people from that army. who approved the order?