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pass the torch. you think you got a little too torchy there? again, i thought all of these issues have someone who has worked on gun violence and student loan debt that many of them are generational. did it look a little contrived, though? too many torches? yeah, maybe i could have done one fewer torch. reporter: in these debates, preparation can be everything. you can t do it for five minutes here or there. they get no lifeline. it s them. it s the camera, the audience. no phone-a-friend? no phone-a-friend. they ll sink or swim. this is an important test in the process. reporter: and after all that studying and all those rehearsals, how does it feel backstage when your candidate goes off script? it s a very special feeling when you re standing you re standing there watching the television and you re thinking, what are they doing? that is not what we said, right? on the other hand, i will say, as a campaign manager there is no way for you to know what it is like.

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