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BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 04:50:00

do you regard that war, first of all, as something you should condemn? and do you also see that it has dangerous lessons for armenia? look, i am now a state minister of the small republic with 120,000 people suffering because of the huge attack from azerbaijan state. and i m responsible to defend my kids who lives here and my nation. and whatever needs to have to be defended, i will do it, which is why i want to answer this question the way what i will say whatever is necessary to save artsakh i will do it. but that s no answer at all. ijust asked you whether you would condemn putin s invasion of ukraine. and i answer you saying whatever was necessary to defend my own people, whatever would be right for them in this situation, to stay silent.

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 00:32:00

in a tiny territory of some 120,000 people. and right now, you have an urgent crisis because your land route out to armenia is currently blockaded. what is the situation for the people living in your territory today? first of all, i want to say thank you for doing this interview. it s very important for the world knowing what s happening in a locked out territory where 120,000 people living in their own homeland for thousands of years and last 35 years was fighting for our own independence. and 38 days in december 12th, the azerbaijan named eco activists block the road and with the support of the azerbaijani state now they control the road and we don t get anything except from red cross and russian peacekeepers. and we have a thousand kids. and we have 30,000 kids.

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 04:46:00

artsakh people, armenians who live in artsakh, from 1988, when there were soviet times, said that we will not be part of azerbaijan, and they fight for theirfreedom and they did all the right legal other steps. and we are today facing a very clear question to the world, saying, do whatever right for self determination, especially in a state who violate all the human rights for your own people, how do you see possible to us to live in a country where is the regime. by the way, just for your understanding, for other people understanding the family who are ruling the country is from 104 years of existence of azerbaijan republic being part of soviet union or independence, 44 years one family controlled the country. there is no rights for the azerbaijani people, not just talking about the armenian, how you see the possibility for ethnic minority, to get any right, how they treat us to get any rights or any defence. why? for us, it s not a question

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 00:44:00

today, the parliamentjust approved a resolution with strong message to president aliyev requesting de blockade the road we re showing is not only russia, but in france, in europe, parliament and the united states, surprisingly have a common view about this issue, which is really something very special, because we all know what this relationship between major european countries and russia today. even if the blockade is lifted, my question remains how can your community in nagorno karabakh be viable in the long term? even the government in yerevan, the armenian government, says that this is no longer a territorial issue, ie they re not making a claim to turn nagorno karabakh into an independent state or part of armenia. they say in yerevan it is simply a matter of rights. that is a question of negotiated negotiating, guaranteed security and human rights for the armenian community inside your

BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 04:45:00

what this relationship between major european countries and russia today. but mr vardanyan, even if the blockade is lifted, my question remains how can your community in nagorno karabakh be viable in the long term? even the government in yerevan, the armenian government, says that this is no longer a territorial issue, ie, they re not making a claim to turn nagorno karabakh into an independent state or part of armenia. they say in yerevan it is simply a matter of rights. that is, a question of negotiated, negotiating, guaranteed security and human rights for the armenian community inside your territory. but the implication is that in the long run you will be part of the azerbaijani sovereign state. do you accept that?

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