point is that even the four of us probably all have differing thoughts and differing opinions and different circumstances that led us to those opinions. what it is a national discussion because we all are watching what s happening in ferguson, ferguson is a mirror for many people of what s happening in their own communities. definitely so. and i m glad that this conversation is happening now. and i think charles barkley is entirely right that we shouldn t wait until something tragic happens to have this conversation. agreed. but i definitely we definitely know this is a nationwide problem, like you said. this isn t just ferguson. people are watching ferguson particularly close because of the reaction of the state on people who were trying to peacefully protest and say we don t want to see any more black bloodshed in the streets by those who are supposed to protect and serve us. but as we speak right now, we re waiting on a decision? the eric garner case. we also saw the offic