supposedly cooperating. he continued to lie, which shows a complete disrespect for the law. and if we are going to have a rule of law, then we have to punish people who totally ignore it and are disrespectful of it. so i think he could get a long sentence. okay. you know there is something, ken, we re not going to learn from today, right, the sentencing. if and whether robert mueller found that paul manafort conspired with the russians to interfere with the election. we can only infer that robert mueller has not filed anything in the criminal court papers that would suggest that. there was the cryptic hint that manafort turned over polling data to a man connected to russian intelligence. but there was no mention of that in the sentencing documents. and so it is a great mystery. axios has framed this up about the lack of historical parallels that are involved here. they talk about some of the biggest political scandals in american history. and you had a front row seat to one of th