and now apparently trying to involve the attorney general in that strategy. very disturbing. frank, this does call for wild guess/speculation on your part, but if you re robert mueller reading this axios story, this headline tonight, how are you reacting? well, he s probably thinking that he could easily be the next one that s threatening to resign or actually being pressured to leave and is potentially fireable by the president. i can tell you this. justice will prevail. if wray is fired or released, mueller will continue on with the special counsel. if mueller is fired by the president, chris wray will ensure that the fbi picks up and continues that case. so the president would have to keep firing leadership after leadership after leadership. thanks for being our opening panel and starting off our coverage on a monday night. thanks to all three of you.
part, but if you re robert mueller reading this axios story, this headline tonight, how are you reacting? well, he s probably thinking that he could easily be the next one that s threatening to resign or actually being pressured to leave and is potentially fireable by the president. i can tell you this. justice will prevail. if wray is fired or released, mueller will continue on with the special counsel. if mueller is fired by the president, chris wray will ensure that the fbi picks up and continues that case. so the president would have to keep firing leadership after leadership after leadership. thanks for being our opening panel and starting off our ko coverage on a monday night. thanks to all three of you. coming up for us as we approach our first break. we ve got a u.s. senator standing by for reaction to the end of this shutdown.
at chris wray relatively soon after appointing him, and we seem to know that it had something to do with andy mccabe, whom the president really seems to hate. but i think what we learned today, from this axios story, is that at some point and my suspicion is that it was a number of weeks ago, but i m not sure of that at some point, that really came to a head and involved a serious confrontation between the fbi director and the attorney general in which the fbi director was forced to defend the line of the political the apolitical nature of the law enforcement function, and to chris wray s credit, he appears to have done that and said, you know, i don t get rid of my deputy director, who, by the way, is a career fbi agent, who is accused of really
what do you think the effect has been on morale? and let s start with the rank and file. from what i m hearing from inside, the concern is really the perception of the public and the impact that might have on the effectiveness of displaying your fbi credentials in the course of an investigation and getting the support from the public. but i think it s important to say that most people realize, particularly those in the fbi, that it s not the issues within the fbi that are causing it to be perceived as a political entity, but rather how the president keeps portraying it that s causing that politicization perception in the public. that s a deliberate strategy by the president. and now apparently trying to involve the attorney general in that strategy. very disturbing. frank, this does call for wild guess/speculation on your part, but if you re robert mueller reading this axios story, this headline tonight, how are you reacting?
spend enough time, i don t think, asking questions about the possibilities. is it possible that he has i don t know if the word witness but could he be a witness, could he have to share with mueller sort of all of his version of these events? andy mccabe is also a witness. could andy mccabe is bob mueller sitting on everything that was in your story today, and is this already of interest, do you think, to the special counsel that rosenstein has a role in all this in terms of creating the cover story that only held up until the president blew his own cover story with lester holt? yeah, i have no doubt that bob mueller has a pretty clear picture of the comey firing through the lenses of all of the players, save for the president himself, and that s why the interview with the president is potentially so significant because you can draw inferences from all these people about what might have been in the president s head.