attack these islamic organizations because we believe they have aspirational goals to attack america, same thing in syria. even though we took the caliphate away isis is still there. they have aspirational goals to return to the caliphate and heard america so here s have a dozen places where america has national security interests, that requires some level of commitment and it is in our national security interests to protect the american people. there are 30 or 40 other places radical islamists are involved, we are not getting involved in we don t have the national interests to do so. of the present was a year after watching the segment, would you say just be patient? yes, let s get a much better deal, let s hold the taliban s feet to the fire and if you re going to continue to kill people, americans and innocent civilians the way you do we are not talking to you. let s get a cease-fire as the first order of business and then
starting to hit isis. it was their plane so that s going to get them even more incentive to hit isis and they re hitting it. we don t have to be alone in the quest. i would hit isis very hard. i would hit them at the source of wealth which is the oil. i would hit them right now. when you say hitting isis hard. what do you mean specifically? i hate to say specifically. i m leading in the polls and if i win, i hate to give all of my information right up front, to be honest with you. i would hit them with a source of wealth. i would hit him at the source of wealth which is the oil. i would take the oil away. i would hit them so hard that their wealth would go away. unless you take away their wealth, you won t take away isis. would you put more u.s. ground troops in iraq? yes. i would work with the kurds and other groups. we would knock it out. there are many people that want isis gone. we re not the only ones. i would work on it very, very hard and very swiftly.
part of the world. isis is there because of the middle east has never come to terms, worked out the basic relationships between governments and society. you ve never figured out what is the secular divide what is political, what is religious. so yes we exacerbated things again by what we did and didn t do but we can t let the locals off the hook. there is something deeply flawed about how it has again failed to modernize success tli.successfully. coming up one of the darkest corners of the internet, a new documentary that profiles the silk road and alleged master mind behind the criminal. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
on. talking about how a lot of the republicans and neocons helped contribute to the creation of isis. do you agree with that some. i thought he had an incomplete analysis. he s right to point out areas where what the united states did, so-called acts of comission made thins worse. but what mr. paul missed were all the things we haven t done that have given al qaeda and groups like islamic state tremendous space. what we didn t do in syria, didn t help the opposition four years ago, didn t follow through on the threat of red lines. not following up in libya. so i thought pulling the troops out of iraq. so i thought he had partially right on the acts of comission. i thought he missed it on the act of omission. who will historians blame on rise of isis? they will blame the united states. and also largely blame the region in the sense this is because of the flaws in this
probably have the somewhat awkward decision to make whether she goes public with what she told the president to what extent does she distance herself from the administration she worked for. i think that will be an issue. and i think the question of pulling u.s. troops out in 2011 i think was a mistake. there was more we could have done to have worked around the problems with the iraqi government and the so-called status of forces agreement. the administration did not want it. but we could have done more. do you agree with rand paul that hawks created isis? i think what created isis was essentially maliki. what enabled maliki was george w. bush and the invasion. i disagree with richard. i think you could have kept troops indefinitely. sooner or later, the lid was going to come off. we ve talked about this before in the show. this was going to happen sooner or later in the arab world because offof siks pico 100 years ago. i don t believe syria and iraq