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away from so far defense official we spoke to said there is movement but not in the away direction. they re still very much looking to see if that is reflected with the troop presence there. erin, i noted that same part of the speech that victor just brought up about how president biden, one of the constituencies that he was talking to, were the ukrainian people. he knows that russians and ukrainian people are not enemies. and he said, your ties, speaking to russians, he talked about their ties to the people of ukraine. do you hear that echoed on the streets? and also, do you hear similarly the anxiety that he alluded to about how horrible this would be? reporter: there is definitely anxiety. they realize, right? it is their borders. they re looking around and saying on their borders, this is what is there. it is an existential threat. as if you re waiting for a category 5 hurricane that is literally life and death, and

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