i mean, for, again, i keep coming back to the fact that there were 280 people on board this plane, there were 15 crew members on board this plane, 295 people in all. i m not even sure how to ask this question, and maybe just think about how you would answer it. i mean, are they killed instantly? i mean, is it is a painful question, and it is asked, you know, after each event. on something like this where it appears as though the plane came undone at a high altitude, most likely death would be instantaneously. on kal007 where it was shot down by a russian fighter plane, the plane struggled in the air and came down over a much longer period of time. but on something like this where the wreckage is over a vast