accusing stormy daniels of charging the wrong michael cohen. i want to bring in walter schaub, a former director for ethics for the obama administration of president obama and president trump and also michael moore a former u.s. attorney, goof to have you both on. good evening. michael, attorneys for michael cohen firing back at michael avenotti, accusing him of releasing private bank records of a different man named michael cohen. so help us sort this out. does this take away from avenotti s credibility? i think it s always hard to come and try to litigate your case and put your evidence out in the media. it makes for good news stories. it gives us a lot to talk about the bottom line is if you do get into a situation, you have book and forth and people question the validity of the documents. we heard about the suspicious activity rarts dealing with the bank records. those are typically very
to the litigation in which he represents police i miss clifford or the reported reasons he may have to appear before this court. mr. avenotti in public and on television challenging cohens, calming his bluff, you released your records. mr. cohen saying why don t you come to federal court and explain how you came into possession of this material. the gloves are off. the stakes have gotten higher the gloves are coming off. what mr. avenotti has been playing a brilliant public relations game and ensuring he s kept his client s story in the news. he has done it in a way that has escalated the pressure on michael cohen. at least in the court of public penalties. now have you tit for tat. quite frankly, michael avenotti is right when he says if this isn t true, provist. i d like to see donald trump s tax records personally. secondly, i think what the lawyer for michael cohen is doing is a perfectly good way of
crime, that s based on the bank records, themselves, merely sharing them inappropriately means someone else may be in trouble. not whether or not there is those records, themselves, are accurate. it looks to me like an escalation here again, this is brands new. it s a response in detail to this avenotti dossier, this report. but it is in the federal proceeding which makes it more significant than a simple press release. aim reading from mr. cohen s lawyers, we have no belief that he has actual records. if he wants to come to court. this is an invitation or sorts from michael cohen s lawyers to get avenotti into the federal case the last time he was there he was out on the steps doing press conferences. this says, if mr. avenotti wishes to come to court, she should be required to explain to this court, to the feds horks you he came to possess this information the details of when cohen was paid by business clients, that have no relation
trying to put michael avenotti back on the defensive. which is to say, you don t have any privilege that attachs to how you got these documents. that we know of. so, therefore, you don t have anyway to keep this aa secret. i m iseoul, that assumeing, tha they re saying. i know you had no time to prepare. we just got this. it seems like an escalation and goes to questions as at least the cohen side wants avenotti. it took a while. these are complex matters. i m reporting here for your knowledge to the viewers. this response from cohen s lawyers, challenging parts of the report and how avenotti got the information that he got while acknowledging some of it is true. that s the expert news. thanks to our expert panel. a trump accuser says hess lice inspired her to run for office. she just became a democratic
published some information that appears to be from mr. cohen s actual bank records and believes he has no legal possession of these documents. walk us through the significance. what you have here, this is a letter to the presiding judge, it seems to say on the one hand, some of this must be accurate. it s not fake news and fake records if it s based on real bank records, number two, it seems to suggest is that mr. avenotti has obtained something that he s not supposed to have and it may be inappropriate. well, certainly bank records are confidential records. so somebody gave those records to mr. annen note who has said publicly he will not reveal his source. he. though, we don t know whether mr. avenotti would be guilty of doing anything wrong. it may be that someone else gave confidential information to mr. avenotti that should not have been given. from your stand point of whether or not there is evidence of a