i.h.s. last year. one of the other interesting things is fatal collisions in colorado. i interviewed governor hickenlooper because they have doubled between 2013 and 2016. here s part of that exchange. we were concerned that we would see a spike in accidents, automobile accidents that were clearly connected to marijuana. we haven t seen that. reporter: while we re on the topic of fatal crashes, the number of fatal crashes involving marijuana comparing 2013 to 2016 has more than doubled. i wonder if that sets off alarm bells in this building. well, that s not real data. we never used to measure for it in 2013. usually when you ahad a traffic fatality where it appeared there was driver error, we d always test for alcohol but rarely for marijuana.
but when you consider and put this in perspective in relation to the number of people diagnose of opioids or automobile accidents, for example, in comparison to the relatively low level of casualties from these kind of attacks, it makes you wonder about putting hyperventilation in context. yeah, so you talked about the men and women of the fbi who were working on this and worked tirelessly on these situations and other things. and remember last week, the president criticized him. the president and his aides have been relentless trying to discredit robert mueller. right-wing media is on the attack. and just last week, we saw republican lawmakers attacking mueller at the donald trump jr. testimony. is this a strategy to undermine what s going on here? the mueller investigation? i think it is. first of all, i think this is a regrettable characteristic of president trump, where he will attack people who have or
whole country. and so, if there s expertise and manpower to be brought to bear on this problem, boy, it s in new york. but we re going to have this. and despite the recent chest beating about defeating isis, we haven t figured out how to defeat the ideology and the appeal to certain people, even those who are legitimately here in this country, who over time somehow become radicalized. and so, i think it s what s happening is unfortunately, just a part of life. but when you consider and put this in perspective in relation to the number of people diagnose of opioids or automobile accidents, for example, in comparison to the relatively low level of casualties from these kind of attacks, it makes you wonder about putting hyperventilation in context. yeah, so you talked about the
oip oid crisis but there are others americans need to focus on as well. forgive me, but it sounds as if you might be saying officials are making too big of a deal out of all of this? i don t think we can ever say people who are suffering from opioid abuse or harmed by it that it s making too big a deal out of it. i think we ve known about heart disease for a long time. we ve known about automobile accidents for a long time. we re beginning to understand the dangers of prescription drugs. so, i m dilated they re doing it, but we also ought to focus on we need to keep it in perspective. i want to play something dr. lena winn said to me yesterday on air. she s baltimore s health commissioner. we talked about the racial element of fighting the war on drugs. when this epidemic hit poor, minority inner city communities, addiction was seen as a choice.
disease diagnosis, surgery, so on, so forth. you know for the last cowell of years every trauma center in the u.s., every hospital in the u.s. has had to transform itself into almost like a war-like mentality. you know, it is like a mash unit. we never really, we dealt with automobile accidents and fires, things of that sort but now it is like mass shootings, with dozens of injuries that are, you know, typically found only in warfields, so, the whole transformation, and quick transformation that these e.r. doctors and nurses, everybody else has to undergo, react way they re reacting it have outcomes they re having is a miracle. it really my brothers and officers, i can t say sisters and i can t say how proud i am of those groups of people. gillian: one thing that was really highlighted in the wake