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enforcement and obviously his family members as well. polo sandoval live for us, thank you for that. we re also getting other information from an eyewitness. and this is another eyewitness to the shooting. and this is coming for the first time. in fact, before even police have heard from her. gwen nichols has told cnn in an exclusive interview that she saw walter scott and officer michael slager shortly after mr. scott was pulled over. when i came to the corner of the advanced auto parking lot and saw them, it was a tussle. and then like before what you saw on the videotape, there was like a little tussle over there. like at the end of that gate down there. reporter: were they on the ground rolling? no. it was like a tussle type of thing like, what do you want or, what did i do, type of thing? there is someone else as