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speaking indictments. they expect it to be extensive, great detail. they want to see who else is going to be named in this indictment? are we going to have unindicted coconspirators? can we tell people who have been cooperating, who were in trump s inner circles. how does mark meadows fit into this case, his former chief of staff in the room for so much of it. and the last thing they ve said, and they ve been saying this repeatedly since the target letter, they expect this case to be not just very strong but to be what they say is beyond a reasonable doubt plus. why? because he s the former president of the united states. the idea this meeting happened today, jack smith was in the room we re told, i was told they weren t walking in there to say your facts are wrong on this but to say broadly an indictment against the president shouldn t happen. i assume usually these meetings
means for the special counsel s investigation. but this news comes just hours after donald trump s legal team met with the special counsel jack smith. sources tell me trump s attorneys weren t there in that meeting today to really argue the facts of a potential case but instead to try to argue they believe an indictment would cause more turmoiln the country. that s an argument trump himself repeat over on truth social saying, quote, my attorneys a productive meeting with the doj this morning explaining in detail that i did nothing wrong, was advised by many lawyers, and that an indictment of me would only further destroy our country. i should note sources tell cnn that meeting lasted about an hour and ended without trump s team getting any guidance on the timing of a potential indictment. trump himself was originally against any kind of sit down between his attorneys and the special counsel s team i m told really believing these charges and a third indictment was
how misplaced that loyalty is, and how overwhelming the facts are. i heard one guest earlier today talk about the perceived unlikelihood of nauta being convicted. they have him on tape, they have pictures. they ve got text, video, they ve got pictures. they ve got pictures that he took and sent. and then he moved the boxes. as a result, attorneys weren t able to find the documents. he s definitely in substantial jeopardy, and i think will be convicted unless he testifies. and on the issue of do they need him, they need him a lot less now than they once did. and, particularly, his initial denials which were unfortunate, that may contribute to the
good evening to all. i m erin burnett in new york. and wolf blitzer is joining me from washington, d.c. this is a special edition of outfront. and tonight the breaking news, the former president s defiance. that is how one of donald trump s attorneys describes the former president s mood tonight after pleading not guilty to 37 felony counts in miami. we are awaiting trump s first public comment since he was formally arrested today. he is expected to head to newark airport, then to his new jersey golf club where he will address most of his loyal supporters and hold a fundraiser. he stopped at a cuban restaurant in miami before leaving. he wanted that photo op. he was greeted by cheers there, a crowd even singing happy birthday to the former president on the eve of his 77th birthday. trump s codefendant and close aide walt nauta was by his side the entire time. this just moments after the judge told them they may not communicate directly about the case going forward.