you. joining me now to discussing all the cnn political commentator and special assistant to president george w. bush scott jennings and former chair of the dc democratic party, attorney a. scott bolden, great to see you both, i know it s a big football night so appreciate you making time for us here on the show. so scott bolden, let kick it off with you, should president biden have condemned trump s offer of a pardon for the rioters? you just heard joe say he lobbed a question at him, asked him about this and he didn t answer. we saw a few weeks ago, president biden was not afraid to call out trump, though he didn t by name exactly, but should he be more forceful now? i think he will be more forceful going forward, just because he was getting into a helicopter doesn t mean he s not going to, but he made it clear what he thinks about donald trump and the republicans in regard to january 6th. listen, it was irresponsible and reckless for donald trump to talk about pardons but it was