this comes from new reporting from the washington post it shows as part of their efforts to overturn the election, trump lawyers asked a forensic data from to access data voting equipment at least three battleground quotes. quote, attorney sydney powell sent them to michigan to copy rural counties election data and later helped arrange for it to do the same in detroit. the trump campaign attorney engage the team to travel to nevada. the day after the january 6th in the capital of the team was in southern georgia copying data from the dominion voting system in a rural coffee county. this garner is a reporter for the washington post, she joins me now. this really really blew me my mind amy, so let s just walk through this. who was this firm, and how did they get access to this data? what were they doing? so the firm is called sullivan, they are based in atlanta, we have been aware of them for a number of months because one of the places where these, you know breaches
that is this about proving the election systems vulnerable or is it about optics and making it seem as if these election systems are vulnerable? really insidious kind of undertaking. additional to that this was not freelancing. shows that sydney powell who is representing the ex president, how palace group discussed exchange and paid for election data, bringing them to the attention of the judge, and providing the fbi and state and election authorities in georgia. truly stunning stuff. amy gardner thanks for your reporting and joining us tonight. thank you chris. still to come. they said good john, now i m gonna give you the best free legal advice you can ever get in your life. get a great effing criminal defence lawyer. you re gonna need it. and one of the most memorable lines in the january six hearings. now donald trump senior advisor, eric herschmann has been subpoenaed by the federal grand jury. those details next.
sydney powell, michael flynn, rudy giuliani. focusing on wild ideas to overturn the election, like invoking martial law and seizing voting machines. now we know how s and white house counsel pat cipollone reacted. i want to discuss with former assistant prosecutor nick akerman. and the former head of intelligence of the d.c. homeland security department. to perfect people to talk about this. good evening, thank you for joining us. nick, i will start with. you in this new testimony from the white house counsel pat so belogna. on what he said on the idea to seize voting machines, an idea for a loaded at that meeting. i want you to watch this. had the federal government seized voting machines it s a terrible idea. that s not how we do things in the united states. i mean that was one of the wild ideas, he s absolutely right i mean
there s no basis to do it if you look at the actual order that sydney powell showed with general flynn. it basically goes on to say that there was probable cause of election fraud which was there was not. it goes on to allow sydney powell to bring civil actions and criminal actions against anyone involved in this. which would be a complete craziness. the idea she could go out and prosecute people willy-nilly and people and sue people willy-nilly for no real basis. look at the lawsuits she brought in the country. this was nuts! and basically, i think what struck me about this was finally the normal people in the white house. the white house counsel and the people around the staff, prevailed upon donald trump to get rid of these clowns. and to get them out of the oval office. and then, with an i don t know, hours. somehow he spoke to somebody, somehow he came up with this plan, to basically send out that tweet. inviting all of the crazies to
trump by saying that he was influenced by some rogue operatives. listen to them discuss. this new strategy is to try to blame only john eastman, or sydney powell, or congressman scott perry, or others. and not president trump. in this version, the president was quote, poorly served, by these outside advisers. the strategy is to blame people, his advisors, called, quote, the crazies, for what donald trump did. this, of course, is nonsense. president trump is a 76-year-old man. he is not an impressionable child. so, ashley, the idea that trump could claim ignorance or, that s falling apart. absolutely. he wasn t the person that made the call that said come to the nation s capital. the other thing is that it s not like when he learned, when he knew, because we know he